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kropotkin Untouchable
Number of posts : 357 Location : Doha, Qatar Reputation : 0 Cool Points : 5875 Registration date : 2008-04-10
| Subject: AnnA is a Fucking Stool-Pigeon Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:36 pm | |
| I told the people at the support eric netork about the song, and this what they responded with:
"chris,
thanks for the heads up (and the song!). getting the word out about eric and his case is really important - and music and art are an important component of that. we might be doing some intensive fundraising soon, so please stay tuned for other ways to help.
yours, jenny"
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What do you all think? I think personally that AnnA should be in prison too!
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lex dictator bastardette
Number of posts : 7833 Age : 35 Location : San Luis Obispo Reputation : 111 Cool Points : 7588 Registration date : 2008-01-17
| Subject: Re: AnnA is a Fucking Stool-Pigeon Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:45 pm | |
| She'll never go to jail, she was working with the FBI. But what she did was fucked up, and I don't know how she can live with herself. | |
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ChristopherJ Dear Shithead
Number of posts : 5 Age : 39 Location : Canada Reputation : 0 Cool Points : 5821 Registration date : 2008-06-03
| Subject: Re: AnnA is a Fucking Stool-Pigeon Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:28 pm | |
| http://supporteric.org/background.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W-AYmnAbpg | |
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funnycars Dear Shithead
Number of posts : 39 Reputation : 0 Cool Points : 5795 Registration date : 2008-06-28
| Subject: Re: AnnA is a Fucking Stool-Pigeon Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:04 pm | |
| What Anna did was fucked up, and most definitely qualifies as entrapment.
But Eric probably would've done what he was going to do, anyway. | |
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brayhold Dear Shithead
Number of posts : 24 Age : 35 Location : KY, USA Reputation : 0 Cool Points : 5827 Registration date : 2008-06-05
| Subject: Anna Lyrics. Fill in the blanks. GO!! Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:19 pm | |
| "ANNA IS A FUCKING STOOL PIGEON" ______________________________
now eric, ren and jenson were activists heads loaded with theory their hearts are filled with passion share the same left wing politics like the same music they were part of the protest movement anna presented herself as a feminist studied the way they talked and dressed fashioned herself as an anarchist eric fell in love with anna at the meeting on crime day conference [??]
he didnt know it but anna was an fbi informant eric fell in love with an fbi informant shared his dreams of revolution now hes sitting in solitary confinement be careful what you think, be careful what you say, might be used against you in court one day now anna thinks she's a hawk, she's just a fucking snitch
the headline called them "the believers" and comparisons were made to a terrorist organization well anna had a car, well anna payed the rent, anna helped find the recipe to make the explosion she encouraged the friends to follow through with their plan they were gonna build a bomb and blow up the Nimbus dam. the conversations were being recorded.
they didnt know it but anna was an fbi informant eric fell in love with an fbi informant shared his dreams of revolution now hes sitting in solitary confinement be careful what you think, be careful what you say, might be used against you in court one day well anna thinks she's a hawk, she's just a fucking snitch
black suburbans and ar-15 rifles agents made their arrest in a k-mart parking lot caught with the supplies for the bomb in hand the three were charged with conspiracy against the government ren and jansen traded testimony in exchange for leniency eric was sentenced to twenty years in a penitentiary now eric, ren and jenson were activists
they didnt know it but anna was an fbi informant eric fell in love with an fbi informant shared his dreams of revolution now hes sitting in solitary confinement be careful what you think, be careful what you say, might be used against you in court one day well anna thinks she's a hawk, she's just a fucking snitch
say anna thinks she's a hawk, she's just a fucking snitch _______________________________ thanks for the help there, guys. missed some rather obvious ones...
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ska_sean Baby, I'm an Anarchist!
Number of posts : 1792 Location : 305, MIAMI Reputation : -22 Cool Points : 6748 Registration date : 2008-04-10
| Subject: Re: AnnA is a Fucking Stool-Pigeon Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:24 pm | |
| - funnycars wrote:
- What Anna did was fucked up, and most definitely qualifies as entrapment.
But Eric probably would've done what he was going to do, anyway. for entrapment to take place you must know that they are cops. if you do anyhting illegal or get into something like this always ask everyone your working with if they are a cop. If they answer no and it turns out they are its entrapment. | |
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| Subject: Re: AnnA is a Fucking Stool-Pigeon Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:13 am | |
| The first line is Eric, Wren, and Jensen were activists.. |
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kropotkin Untouchable
Number of posts : 357 Location : Doha, Qatar Reputation : 0 Cool Points : 5875 Registration date : 2008-04-10
| Subject: Re: AnnA is a Fucking Stool-Pigeon Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:58 am | |
| Eric, Wren, and Jensen were activists.. heads loaded with theory the hearts are filled with passion share the same left wing politics like the same music they were part of the protest movement anna presented herself as a feminist started the way they talked and dressed fashioned herself an anarchist eric fell in love with anna at the meeting on crime day conference [??]
he didnt know it by anna was an fbi informant eric fell in love with an fbi informant SHARED his dreams of revolution now hes sitting in solitary confinement be careful what you think, be careful what you say, might be used against you in court one day now anna think she's a hawk, she's just a fucking snitch
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And although she won't go to prison, she definately should. I'm not sure Eric was going to do anything anyway. Talk & action are not the same thing. | |
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WWD4D? Baby, I'm an Anarchist!
Number of posts : 1245 Age : 38 Location : Hull, England Reputation : 72 Cool Points : 6857 Registration date : 2008-04-09
| Subject: Re: AnnA is a Fucking Stool-Pigeon Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:28 am | |
| black suburbans and ar-15 rifles agents made the arrest in a k-mart parking lot caught with the supplies for the bomb in hand | |
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brayhold Dear Shithead
Number of posts : 24 Age : 35 Location : KY, USA Reputation : 0 Cool Points : 5827 Registration date : 2008-06-05
| Subject: Re: AnnA is a Fucking Stool-Pigeon Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:39 am | |
| the first lyrics are tricky, but i think its the last names of the other two "activists". i find it interesting to see that eric is the only first name listed. the other two are identified by last name. the media often does this in troubling situations to attach a face to a name, to point out the importance of the person. missing children are always named by their first name should the kidnapper be watching in order to show their importance.
the names are rushed because they dont really fit the 4/4 tempo of the song, but if this is what it is, it really does a good job of calling attention to the fact that we need to listen to what is about to be said. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: AnnA is a Fucking Stool-Pigeon Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:41 am | |
| Actually, if you read the article about the Eric McDavid case, the other people involved were called Jenson and Wren. Those weren't their last names. The girl was named Lauren but she went by Wren.
Edit: My bad, Jenson IS the last name of one of the activists. Their names were Lauren Weiner and Zachary Jenson, but from what I read they always referred to him as Jenson so maybe that's just what he went by? |
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brayhold Dear Shithead
Number of posts : 24 Age : 35 Location : KY, USA Reputation : 0 Cool Points : 5827 Registration date : 2008-06-05
| Subject: Re: AnnA is a Fucking Stool-Pigeon Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:48 am | |
| damn. i guess there goes that idea. would have been different. | |
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arollo Ninja Warrior
Number of posts : 2008 Age : 38 Location : Edmonton, AB Reputation : 10 Cool Points : 5998 Registration date : 2008-03-01
| Subject: Re: AnnA is a Fucking Stool-Pigeon Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:05 am | |
| - kropotkin wrote:
- And although she won't go to prison, she definately should. I'm not sure Eric was going to do anything anyway. Talk & action are not the same thing.
I agree, but talking about committing acts of terrorism still warrants some attention. And despite how wrong the FBI is, the fact is that when given the resources, they went from talk to action. And because of that, not only should Eric be in prison, so should the other two, and so should Anna and whoever authorized the FBI operation. I like the song, but damn if I am not disturbed by the fact that my favourite band is basically saying they support acts of violence so long as it's violence against some make believe enemy. I really am disturbed by that. . . . . . Unless the "he fell in love with an FBI informant" line implies that the song is really about relationships, and how people are basically dishonest about how and why they fall in love. Maybe it's really just a song about how cynical people are about love. But probably not. | |
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brayhold Dear Shithead
Number of posts : 24 Age : 35 Location : KY, USA Reputation : 0 Cool Points : 5827 Registration date : 2008-06-05
| Subject: Re: AnnA is a Fucking Stool-Pigeon Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:22 am | |
| its based on a true story. toms been writing songs he admittedly lifts from the news. example: "nuclear cowboys in an age of drift" is in fact a newsweek article under the same name. current events are becoming more of an issue it seems. i guess "dont miss your chance to see it while its all happenin'". and before, in an interview, from her lips to gods ears was almost word for word was said to be based on words lifted from a tv newscast.
BUT, the info about this anna http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_McDavid | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: AnnA is a Fucking Stool-Pigeon Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:17 am | |
| Yeah, here's an Elle article about Eric McDavid that has a ton of things Tom referenced in the song. "The headline called them the Believers," and "Anna thinks she's a a hawk.." when Anna calls herself that in this article. Also, a lot of things he used to describe the situation is described in this article:
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2008/05/22/18500855.php |
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atom Baby, I'm an Anarchist!
Number of posts : 1880 Age : 35 Location : Gainesville, FL Reputation : 10 Cool Points : 5972 Registration date : 2008-03-08
| Subject: Re: AnnA is a Fucking Stool-Pigeon Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:48 am | |
| now eric, weiner and jenson were activists heads loaded with theory their hearts are filled with passion share the same left wing politics like the same music they were part of the protest movement anna presented herself as a feminist STUDIED the way they talked and dressed | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: AnnA is a Fucking Stool-Pigeon Sat Jul 12, 2008 6:10 am | |
| - brayhold wrote:
eric fell in love with anna at the meeting on crime day conference [??]
I'm pretty sure he's saying "CrimethInc. Conference." It's hard to hear cause he sings it so quickly, but that's what he's saying. CrimethInc. is the anarchist group that Eric belonged to, and it's where he met Anna. http://www.crimethinc.com/ |
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ClockworkRobot Baby, I'm an Anarchist!
Number of posts : 1300 Age : 38 Location : Scotland Reputation : 18 Cool Points : 6071 Registration date : 2008-01-18
| Subject: Re: AnnA is a Fucking Stool-Pigeon Sat Jul 12, 2008 6:52 am | |
| lol I gave Pepe crimethInc stuff for christmas once without really realising it. pretty interesting like. | |
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ryann Dear Shithead
Number of posts : 9 Age : 34 Reputation : 0 Cool Points : 5780 Registration date : 2008-07-14
| Subject: Re: AnnA is a Fucking Stool-Pigeon Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:06 pm | |
| The idea of violence in pursuit of peace does not sit well with me. A bit hypocritical in my opinion
But I don't believe half the bs the news publicizes. Does this remind anyone else of 1984? ha | |
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Kyle thumbless wonder
Number of posts : 3639 Location : Florida Reputation : 163 Cool Points : 7435 Registration date : 2008-04-24
| Subject: Re: AnnA is a Fucking Stool-Pigeon Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:36 pm | |
| - ryann wrote:
- The idea of violence in pursuit of peace does not sit well with me. A bit hypocritical in my opinion
Thank you. That is exactly what I say, but every anarchist Ive seen is like, "Its for the greater good." or, "They deserve it." | |
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ska_sean Baby, I'm an Anarchist!
Number of posts : 1792 Location : 305, MIAMI Reputation : -22 Cool Points : 6748 Registration date : 2008-04-10
| Subject: Re: AnnA is a Fucking Stool-Pigeon Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:06 pm | |
| nothing happens without violence.... sad but true. | |
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Kyle thumbless wonder
Number of posts : 3639 Location : Florida Reputation : 163 Cool Points : 7435 Registration date : 2008-04-24
| Subject: Re: AnnA is a Fucking Stool-Pigeon Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:12 pm | |
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Stalls_Standing Baby, I'm an Anarchist!
Number of posts : 1815 Age : 34 Location : Peterborough, England Reputation : 5 Cool Points : 5946 Registration date : 2008-04-09
| Subject: Re: AnnA is a Fucking Stool-Pigeon Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:48 pm | |
| In fact that's a terrible terrible statement. | |
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ryann Dear Shithead
Number of posts : 9 Age : 34 Reputation : 0 Cool Points : 5780 Registration date : 2008-07-14
| Subject: Re: AnnA is a Fucking Stool-Pigeon Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:00 pm | |
| if peace could be solved by violence the war would solve itself
obviously that is not true | |
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WWD4D? Baby, I'm an Anarchist!
Number of posts : 1245 Age : 38 Location : Hull, England Reputation : 72 Cool Points : 6857 Registration date : 2008-04-09
| Subject: Re: AnnA is a Fucking Stool-Pigeon Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:55 am | |
| I can't help but feel that if these people had listened more to Give 'Em Enough Rope and 'Julie's Been Working For The Drug Squad' in particular then they wouldn't be in this mess. Moral: listen to the Clash. | |
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