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PostSubject: Re: Arab Unrest   Arab Unrest - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 21, 2011 6:59 pm

read this article about a small protest in china but it was squashed. There are comparisons made between the Mid East and china

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110221/ap_on_an/as_china_jasmine_revolution_analysis
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PostSubject: Re: Arab Unrest   Arab Unrest - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 21, 2011 7:02 pm

Egyptian embassy has been car-bombed or something and all the staff are trapped.
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PostSubject: Re: Arab Unrest   Arab Unrest - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 21, 2011 7:43 pm

not to be nit picky but Iran is not Arab, they are Persian. They would be insulted if you said otherwise
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PostSubject: Re: Arab Unrest   Arab Unrest - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 21, 2011 7:49 pm

That's like saying that they're not Arab, they are Iranian. And surely it's part of Asia.

Either way, it's irrelevant. The Arab world's protests have been a catalyst for Iran's movements.
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PostSubject: Re: Arab Unrest   Arab Unrest - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 21, 2011 8:05 pm

Aaron wrote:
That's like saying that they're not Arab, they are Iranian. And surely it's part of Asia.

Either way, it's irrelevant. The Arab world's protests have been a catalyst for Iran's movements.

I don't think so, I think a Persian is different from an Arab. Still, your second point stands.
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PostSubject: Re: Arab Unrest   Arab Unrest - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 21, 2011 8:09 pm

Yeah, Persian is different from Arab. But it isn't different from Iranian.
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"I am satisfied, because I was speaking in front of the youth in the Green Square tonight, but the rain came praise to God it bears well. I want to clarify for them that I am in Tripoli not in Venezuela. Do not believe these channels they are dogs. Goodbye."
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PostSubject: Re: Arab Unrest   Arab Unrest - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 21, 2011 8:46 pm

yeah its irrelevant till you call an Iranian an Arab... anyways
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PostSubject: Re: Arab Unrest   Arab Unrest - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 21, 2011 8:47 pm

Okay then.
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PostSubject: Re: Arab Unrest   Arab Unrest - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 21, 2011 9:42 pm

I think the radio stations in the area must have been playing too much Public Enemy and Rage Against the Machine
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PostSubject: Re: Arab Unrest   Arab Unrest - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Feb 22, 2011 7:16 am

Aaron wrote:
Yeah I was thinking they wouldn't be told, but with Kim Jong-il you can never tell.

Why China, Tim? I see what you mean but why there specifically?

They already had a demonstration, and they named it after the one in Tunisia.
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PostSubject: Re: Arab Unrest   Arab Unrest - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 28, 2011 2:35 pm

Does anyone think other countries like the US and UK should arm the Libyan rebels?

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PostSubject: Re: Arab Unrest   Arab Unrest - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 28, 2011 4:13 pm

No.
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PostSubject: Re: Arab Unrest   Arab Unrest - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 28, 2011 4:18 pm

No. I guarantee it will come back and bite us in the ass
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PostSubject: Re: Arab Unrest   Arab Unrest - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 28, 2011 4:45 pm

Yeah, it seems like US involvement would just give the other side more reason to oppose the opposition.
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PostSubject: Re: Arab Unrest   Arab Unrest - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 28, 2011 8:06 pm

ThusSpokeYourFace wrote:
Does anyone think other countries like the US and UK should arm the Libyan rebels?


Remember what happened in Afghanistan...
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PostSubject: Re: Arab Unrest   Arab Unrest - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 28, 2011 9:55 pm

raptorsaurus wrote:
ThusSpokeYourFace wrote:
Does anyone think other countries like the US and UK should arm the Libyan rebels?


Remember what happened in Afghanistan...

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PostSubject: Re: Arab Unrest   Arab Unrest - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Mar 01, 2011 12:31 am

raptorsaurus wrote:
ThusSpokeYourFace wrote:
Does anyone think other countries like the US and UK should arm the Libyan rebels?


Remember what happened in Afghanistan...

and Japan and Iraq. I'm glad our gov. learns from history Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Arab Unrest   Arab Unrest - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Mar 01, 2011 12:36 pm

wait, what happened in japan? i'm gonna feel super dumb if the answer is in my face.
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PostSubject: Re: Arab Unrest   Arab Unrest - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Mar 01, 2011 2:17 pm

haha im talking about wayyyy back in the 1870's. Have you seen Last Samurai? The back story is true. We forced Japan to modernize to benefit us and decades later they invade China and a ton of other places, then bomb Pearl Harbor.
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PostSubject: Re: Arab Unrest   Arab Unrest - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Mar 01, 2011 2:26 pm

oooooooooooh, ok.
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PostSubject: Re: Arab Unrest   Arab Unrest - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Mar 01, 2011 6:37 pm

America didn't really play a part in Japanese modernization. It was mostly the French.
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PostSubject: Re: Arab Unrest   Arab Unrest - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Mar 01, 2011 6:59 pm

i remember it was Admiral Perry who went in Tokyo Bay with guns ready to blast the Japanese navy. The Japanese stood down and complied with the American presidents demands. Maybe the French did something too.
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PostSubject: Re: Arab Unrest   Arab Unrest - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Mar 01, 2011 9:29 pm

I can probably gurantee if the US gives weapons, it'll be almost exactly the same situation with Afganishtan. Cause during the Cold War, the US gave the Afgans weapons to help beat the Soviets.... Well, they beat the Soviets, but the US just abandoned Afgainistan after, and it was in really bad shape... They still haven't recovered.
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PostSubject: Re: Arab Unrest   Arab Unrest - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Mar 02, 2011 5:57 pm

I don't know that it would be the exact same situation.
Afghanistan is a pretty unique place.
I do think its a terrible idea though. I would compare it more to if we were to get involved in Iranian affairs or something like that. I mean, Gaddafi and his supporters already use the west as a scapegoat for their problems and blame us for the shit going on now, so to actually arm the rebels would only prove them right. Not to mention the implications it would have for whatever government they would set up in place of the one they have now.
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