FNG (F*cking New Guy)

and i answered your advice thing, wheres the gifts bitch?

Wooow odell, I wasn't throwing a bitch fit. Just saying man. Its all opinions, just sorta thinking out loud. No need to get so wound up over nothing mate. I mean shit its more then just me sobbing away. The anarchist movement more than anything just needs famous people supporting it. I mean right now we have alan moore, ufc fighter Jeff monson, uhhh shit I ran outta people, maybe Jello from DK not exactly famous though. Point is losing an anarchist is like losing a fuckin white siberian tiger. People flip shit when it happens because there is so few of them.

There coming man. Just tell me what u need.

in two years you'll understand why he' no longer "anarchistic". dont take baby im an anarchist literally, as far as i know its a satire, the youtube community see to get into quite a fuss about that song.....

It just gets so fucking old every time against me! is mentioned someone has to bring up "new wave" and "sell out"

when most of them were brought TO against me! BY NEW WAVE!
so how can you say anything about selling out when that was how you heard of them.

They took the movement to the market, so fuck off.
(thats sort of some lyrics, btw)

Odell you didn't read all my posts did you mate? Don't blame you there were a lot. I don't think he's a sellout. I don't mind Tom making money or being famous. If anything its a good thing for the anarchist movement if he is. He can spread the message to more people. But they didn't take the movement to the market. Case and point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv5qIi44Ifw

the comments for that vid hilarious.

I mean he gets so getty and giggly talking about a fuckin president. Obama like any other president is a fascist. Like mccain would have been.

I mean Crispin Sartwell supported obama but basically said it was the lesser of two evils.

And I've heard the arguements for Baby being a satire. I don't buy it. To much history in it. Only an anarchist could write that song. Not to mention Those anarcho punx.

SolemnPsycho wrote:

Yeah thusspoke, I know but I'm an idealist and realist rolled up into one. So I know tom's not exactly headstrong anarchist anymore but I admit I wish he was.

And anthony I don't feek personally betrayed just kinda bumbed. And it was funny the first AM! album I had was new wave. Thought it was ok but nothing special. I started getting into anarchy hard like maybe a year before that. Then someone told me AM! used to be really anarchistic. Naturally my reaction was like "Really?". So it was like the timing combined with the power of the music and lyrics that made me just think fuck we lost one of the good ones. I mean what few anarchists we have are mostly self-righteous pompous assholes (ironic?). Like the guy with the crass shirt tom got into a scuffle with and the guy called the cops?

Sorta brings up another point if I just gave someone new wave, would they have any idea that the guy who wrote even used to be an anarchist? Or for that fact that he was a good writer. New wave as a whole failed for tom gabel. Which is to say pretty good for music in general.

a- who cares if he is, was, or ever will be an anarchist again. the dude makes good music.
b- what is it that you do that you consider yourself, "into anarchy hard"
c- it was a class war t-shirt

yes, i did.

and in your post contains the words "sell out" "new wave" "sire" fat" etc...

Like i just said, i hate that AM! is always attached with these words instead of the words

"fucking awesome" "totally righteous" "best band ever" etc.


And about your not buying it about the Baby arguments, your 17. Grow up, and have another listen.

Both Baby and Those Anarcho Punks are about Toms distaste for the whole PLA movement (post leftism anarchy) and the idea that one ideal was better than the other.

and also.
its not often that someone is attached to and compared to words that they wrote when they were a teenager.
tom is what 29 now?
i would love for you to look back at some of the things that you have written down, maybe even in this thread, when you are 29. you will probably feel pretty foolish or at least have a different outlook on the world.

Johnny99 wrote:

and also.
its not often that someone is attached to and compared to words that they wrote when they were a teenager.
tom is what 29 now?
i would love for you to look back at some of the things that you have written down, maybe even in this thread, when you are 29. you will probably feel pretty foolish or at least have a different outlook on the world.

Thank you. My point all along.

i hate what i wrote when i was 16. i threw it all away

So the whole of the argument is that I will grow out of it. What if I don't?

Hell freezes over?

hopefully. it's fucking hot in florida

I've never met a functioning 30 year old Anarchist. Not saying they don't exist just saying it's rare.

Chris Clavin.

I've never met Chris Clavin.

Also, New guy who's name I forgot, you might enjoy any of the artists from the Riot Folk Collective, if you're into anarchist music. (Can't believe I didn't recommend them earlier..)

I'll check Chris Claven and the Riot Folk Collective out. Thanks for the info.

Plan-it-X Records (run by Chris Clavin of Ghost Mice) is a totally DIY anarchist label. They released the early pressings of Crime if you didn't know that already.

Chris Clavin of Captain Chaos as well as a billion other bands/projects

Should definitely look into his stuff.

anarchyintheUS wrote:

I've never met a functioning 30 year old Anarchist. Not saying they don't exist just saying it's rare.

Usually they're on heroin or perpetually drunk.

And I think I've figured this whole thing out.
The new anarchy guy is "into anarchy hard" not into music.

and he thinks this is an anarchy forum?

i pity the fool

Well, they used to be more of an anarcho band I guess, so it's not a bad place to look for anarchists.

Pretty much. You guys hit the nail on the head. I knew what plan-it-x was though. didnt know who ran it though. More then anything its an AM! forum, who I follow. So yeah. I'm a member of an anarchy forum fun crazy people. I do listen to other anarcho bands though. But definitly no music buff. I admitadly know dick about music.

But come on. You guys know on occasion you want the perspective of a crazy idealist, anarchist. I keep you straight. You love/hate me and you know it.