Toms fetish about being a women

DOES anyone know what the deal is with tom talking about being a women, like in The Ocean, and Searching for a Former Clarity?

fetish*

Oh lex, I came in here to do that

Toooo slow. I'll edit it for him, I don't know why he capitalized fetish either. But anyways, I don't know what's up with the fetish...if you wanna call it that.

fetish noun (fetishes) 1 in primitive societies: an object worshipped for its perceived magical powers. 2 a procedure or ritual followed obsessively, or an object of obsessive devotion. 3 a an object other than the sexual organs that is handled or visualized as an aid to sexual stimulation; b a person's attachment to such an object.

Strange.

"That Frank [Tom], he lives inside of his own heart. That's an awful big place to live in."

Tom's a feminist as well. I can't speak for exactly why he desires to be a woman, but I'm sure he has an enormous amount of respect for women, unlike the US in general. It's a different viewpoint, embrace it as something that makes us diverse as a human race.

And I used the feel the same way sometimes as well.

Yeh sorry about the spelling error, i am in school right now and i am just ruishing

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I wouldn't really call it a fetish, he's mentioned in 2 songs out of the massive pile of songs he's written. Not like he writes every song about wanting to be a women and cross dresses.

i just cant spell under pressure

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he's mentioned in 2 songs out of the massive pile of songs he's written. Not like he writes every song about wanting to be a women and cross dresses.

And those songs are from a 3rd person perspective, I think.

JamaicaSka wrote:

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he's mentioned in 2 songs out of the massive pile of songs he's written. Not like he writes every song about wanting to be a women and cross dresses.

And those songs are from a 3rd person perspective, I think.

"And If I could have chosen, I would have been born a woman'


Not 3rd perspective, SFAFC is though

They weren't worded from a 3rd person, but written to be from one. As if someone else is singing the song.

That's my take on it, anyway.

I don't feel that with The Ocean, I see it as his dream to one day live by the sea with his kids

I don't know, I think the lyrics are just a reaction to the overly masculine punk rock scene, and the whole thing about the guitar being an extension of the penis. Maybe there is an element of frustration in being a man in a band who plays guitar but doesn't like the connotation that he's just some guy playing with his dick on stage.

his legs are skinny like a womans.




...haha couldnt resist saying it.

Stalls_Standing wrote:

I don't feel that with The Ocean, I see it as his dream to one day live by the sea with his kids

in an interview, i forget which one, he wrote that song he said from childhood memories, like laying by the window so the breeze could soothe the sunburn.

Haha, I don't see how saying, "If I could have chosen, I would have been born a woman," is the same as having some kind of fetish. It's not like Tom walks around cross dressing or consistently talking about a strong desire to be female. There are times when I've thought it would be easier to live life as a man instead of a woman. It doesn't mean I have some weird fetish.

And hey, even if Tom did dress up in women's clothing, who honestly gives a fuck? He still writes amazing music, and that's all that matters to me.

One of the greatest comedians ever, Eddie Izzard, is a transvestite and proud.

I don't honestly give a fuck what people wear (or don't wear), can't see any reason why I should.

Yea, I've had these same discussions on Green Day boards about Billie Joe. I mean listen to the song 'King For a Day', and he's been known to wear dresses at shows back in the day, and he um has a problem with keeping his clothes on hahah. But I think it's badass, I don't see Tom stripping in the near future but hey if he wants to cool.

I don't see anyone saying that it's wrong, I thought they just brought up the point.

I fucking love Billie. Just thought I'd say it

I don't see how anyone could not love Billie Joe.

whoa no need to gang up on the PreAm!2005 guy on every thread, i am just trying to make something interesting on here, getting other peoples opions on the songs

I don't understand why any man would want to become a woman. No matter what you say, its a sad fact: this is a mans world still. I'll fight it as much as I can, but I know that I'll never get as far as I could get if I had been born with a Y chromosome.

Yeah, it sucks. Especially when you have an interest in certain things, like working in the music industry. It feels like I'll never be taken seriously, but I guess it makes me want to work that much harder.