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PostSubject: Drinking with the Jocks   Drinking with the Jocks Icon_minitimeMon Jun 11, 2012 11:21 am

One of the angry guns...
Let's give this a go.

I'm drinking with the jocks,
I'm loving the fuckers.
...
...a dick in my hand,
For all of my life just like I was one of them.

"Look at all the bitches, yeah,
We're gonna fuck them all.
Look at all the pussy, yeah,
...cunt (?)"
All of my life wishing I was one of them.

There will always be a difference between me and you, for all my life.


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PostSubject: Re: Drinking with the Jocks   Drinking with the Jocks Icon_minitimeMon Jun 11, 2012 12:51 pm

vid-os?
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PostSubject: Re: Drinking with the Jocks   Drinking with the Jocks Icon_minitimeMon Jun 11, 2012 3:36 pm

Aaron wrote:
One of the angry guns...
Let's give this a go.

I'm drinking with the jocks,
I'm loving the fuckers.
...
...a dick in my hand,
For all of my life just like I was one of them.

Look at all the bitches,
...
Look at all the pussy,
...cunt (?)
All of my life wishing I was one of them.

There will always be a tempest between me and you, for all my life.
I'm pretty sure it's "difference" or "distance", not tempest.
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PostSubject: Re: Drinking with the Jocks   Drinking with the Jocks Icon_minitimeSun Jul 29, 2012 4:50 pm

Also the second line is definitely "I'm laughing at the faggots"
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PostSubject: Re: Drinking with the Jocks   Drinking with the Jocks Icon_minitimeWed Aug 22, 2012 7:22 pm

I'm drinking with the jocks,
I'm laughing at the faggots.
Just like one of the boys,
Swinging my dick in my hand
All of my life just like I was one of them.

Look at all of the bitches,
We're gonna fuck them all.
Look at all the pussy,
We'll have them cum. (?)
All of my life wishing I was one of them.

There will always be a difference between me and you.
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PostSubject: Re: Drinking with the Jocks   Drinking with the Jocks Icon_minitimeSun Sep 02, 2012 5:18 am

I don't know that I like the lyrics to this. I appreciate the message because I also share a distaste for this kind of person. I guess I just don't like hearing some of those words, even in a sarcastic way.
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PostSubject: Re: Drinking with the Jocks   Drinking with the Jocks Icon_minitimeSun Sep 02, 2012 6:29 pm

same
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PostSubject: Re: Drinking with the Jocks   Drinking with the Jocks Icon_minitimeTue Jan 07, 2014 4:52 pm

I'm drinking with the jocks.
I'm laughing at the faggots.
Just like one of the boys. Swinging my dick in my hand.

All of my life, all of my life.
Just like I was one of them.

Look at all of them bitches, yeah.
I'm going to fuck them all.
Look at all of them bitches, yeah.
Fill them up with cum.

All of my life, all of my life.
Wishing I was one of them.

There will always be a difference between me and you.

All of my life, all of my life.
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PostSubject: Re: Drinking with the Jocks   Drinking with the Jocks Icon_minitimeTue Jan 07, 2014 7:17 pm

twikki wrote:
I'm drinking with the jocks.
I'm laughing at the faggots.
Just like one of the boys. Swinging my dick in my hand.

All of my life, all of my life.
Just like I was one of them.

Look at all of them bitches, yeah.
I'm going to fuck them all.
Look at all of them bitches, yeah.
Fill them up with cum.

All of my life, all of my life.
Wishing I was one of them.

There will always be a difference between me and you.

All of my life, all of my life.

That's fucking beautiful.
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PostSubject: Re: Drinking with the Jocks   Drinking with the Jocks Icon_minitimeWed Jan 08, 2014 9:31 am

In terms of its meaning. I think it's probably regarding Laura's ability to hang out with dudes after her operation. Broadly, it could just be interpreted as how sexist some men are.
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PostSubject: Re: Drinking with the Jocks   Drinking with the Jocks Icon_minitimeWed Jan 08, 2014 11:01 am

twikki wrote:
In terms of its meaning. I think it's probably regarding Laura's ability to hang out with dudes after her operation. Broadly, it could just be interpreted as how sexist some men are.


I feel it's written for how she felt during her younger ("high school") days. She was a jock and she associated. Fulfilled a stereotypical jock role, but always knew there was something different between her and them.
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PostSubject: Re: Drinking with the Jocks   Drinking with the Jocks Icon_minitimeThu Jan 23, 2014 9:29 am

This song hits close to home, making me think of all the macho situations I've been in where I've felt the social pressure to act like "one the boys". You know, there are all these dudes saying stupid homophobic/sexist/rapey shit and patting each other on the back, and you feel you'd better just play along and keep your thoughts to yourself. You feel that if you tried to call them on their macho bullshit, they'd probably just dismiss you as a feminazi with no sense of humor; after all, they are "only joking".

I'm a cis female, though, so it's kinda obvious that "there will always be a difference between me and you", whereas being a closeted trans woman in a situation like that... It must feel so much worse.
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PostSubject: Re: Drinking with the Jocks   Drinking with the Jocks Icon_minitimeSun Jan 26, 2014 3:30 am

and “Drinking with the Jocks,” a song about denying your true self in order to pass as a straight cis man, wouldn’t work as well if Grace didn’t sing it like an obscene parody of hyper-masculine hardcore. http://www.buzzfeed.com/perpetua/against-me-transgender-dysphoria-blues
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PostSubject: Re: Drinking with the Jocks   Drinking with the Jocks Icon_minitimeThu Jan 30, 2014 2:29 am

This is just one of a few moments where the record seems in search of community, of acceptance. “Drinking With the Jocks” manages to once again call punk on its shit, as the band has done well plenty of times before, while also digging into the isolation of being left out. The hard-charging song is about wanting to be one of the jocks, wanting—if just for a moment—to be a part of a group that faces no scrutiny, that doesn’t have the social stigmas and pressure that anyone who feels like an outsider might have. But rather than paint the jocks as date-rape morons, as many punk songs do, Grace and company do something different. When Grace screams “look at all that pussy”, it’s not so much mocking jock culture as it sheds light on ways in which it too has its masks, its false macho bullshit that people subscribe to to fit in. In the end, Grace knows she doesn’t fit with this group, but it’s not anyone’s fault, just a difference, and so fitting in must come from somewhere else. In “Transgender Dysphoria Blues” it comes in one person, the acceptance in spending “the whole day along with you”. The record shows personal relationships, our closest ones, as their own kind of community, or at least the sturdiest foundation for it.
http://www.popmatters.com/review/178403-against-me-transgender-dysphoria-blues/
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PostSubject: Re: Drinking with the Jocks   Drinking with the Jocks Icon_minitimeThu Jan 30, 2014 3:17 am

I'm sorry amber but please stop just spamming articles

It just seems like you're a google bot for the album, just post your opinions.

Also I noticed you slip a little bit of doge into your posts. Very curious.
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PostSubject: Re: Drinking with the Jocks   Drinking with the Jocks Icon_minitimeThu Jan 30, 2014 3:46 am

such trans
                               many troll
          mtf
very gender
                                  wow
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PostSubject: Re: Drinking with the Jocks   Drinking with the Jocks Icon_minitimeThu Jan 30, 2014 6:13 am

I'm mot a huge fan of the song for a few reasons, but scenes this is a topic about the meaning of a song I can't help post the crazy things the media has said. Before posting this: I read over a 100 reviews for the new album. I think the media has put this album on a high pedestal and the weight of Transgender and of meaningful Music on the Band and Laura. In any case Laura is now the Media's new favorite Transsexual celebrity. Before that it was Chaz Bono http://chazbono.net/
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