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PostSubject: The Ocean   The Ocean Icon_minitimeTue Oct 28, 2008 10:43 am

Basically... I've got no idea. Yes, Tom said it was related to The Disco After The Breakdown and Searching For A Former Clarity, but... I've got no idea what this song means.
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PostSubject: Re: The Ocean   The Ocean Icon_minitimeTue Oct 28, 2008 10:45 am

I really think it has a lot to do with him appreciating his mother, more than literally wanting to be "born a woman." Its gorgeous.
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PostSubject: Re: The Ocean   The Ocean Icon_minitimeTue Oct 28, 2008 1:06 pm

I thin kthat song is wicked ballsy
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PostSubject: Re: The Ocean   The Ocean Icon_minitimeTue Oct 28, 2008 1:07 pm

Fornikatieng wrote:
I thin kthat song is wicked ballsy

for true
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PostSubject: Re: The Ocean   The Ocean Icon_minitimeTue Oct 28, 2008 1:08 pm

so ballsy, I can't spell
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PostSubject: Re: The Ocean   The Ocean Icon_minitimeTue Oct 28, 2008 1:10 pm

haha! I didn't even notice.
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PostSubject: Re: The Ocean   The Ocean Icon_minitimeTue Oct 28, 2008 1:41 pm

I noticed! Yeah, it takes balls to be able to sing that...
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PostSubject: Re: The Ocean   The Ocean Icon_minitimeTue Oct 28, 2008 2:31 pm

I think it's more of a stream of consciousness than an effort to portray a specific meaning, but there are messages in here, nonetheless. It's absolutely beautiful musically, too.
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PostSubject: Re: The Ocean   The Ocean Icon_minitimeTue Oct 28, 2008 2:52 pm

Yeah, that sounds right to me... I mean, it's a difficult one to really give a meaning to the whole of it...
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PostSubject: Re: The Ocean   The Ocean Icon_minitimeTue Oct 28, 2008 4:34 pm

i wanted to answer this in a really complicated way, but i'm having a rough week. i understand everything about ocean, though. it's very metaphorical, and the general emotive energy to it just touches me. The Ocean, in my opinion, is probably the best song on New Wave.
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PostSubject: Re: The Ocean   The Ocean Icon_minitimeTue Oct 28, 2008 4:46 pm

Ocean is probably my favorite song off of New Wave. I heard it after living on a ship for a few months and seeing nothing but ocean for days at a time, so I was in love with oceans/bodies of water in general and then I heard this song and was basically just like "YES!" The first line always, without fail, makes my heart swell.

Anyway, I always thought it was about interconnectedness, sort of a "we are all one" ideology. It also makes me feel like there's a lot of longing in life, so I guess it's a pretty bittersweet song to me. It's about all that there is in this world and all that you can have if you know what you want.
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PostSubject: Re: The Ocean   The Ocean Icon_minitimeMon Nov 03, 2008 10:30 am

AnnaIsAFuckingStoolPigeon wrote:
I noticed! Yeah, it takes balls to be able to sing that...
I sing it all the time
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PostSubject: Re: The Ocean   The Ocean Icon_minitimeMon Nov 03, 2008 1:14 pm

Shawn! wrote:
AnnaIsAFuckingStoolPigeon wrote:
I noticed! Yeah, it takes balls to be able to sing that...
I sing it all the time

yeah but in front of an audience with homophobic people?
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PostSubject: Re: The Ocean   The Ocean Icon_minitimeMon Nov 03, 2008 1:37 pm

brizanne__ wrote:
Shawn! wrote:
AnnaIsAFuckingStoolPigeon wrote:
I noticed! Yeah, it takes balls to be able to sing that...
I sing it all the time

yeah but in front of an audience with homophobic people?

Doesn't even matter if they're homophobic, considering it's just in front of an audience in general, most (if not all) of whom you don't know, and could or couldn't be homophobic.

Hell, people have issues singing in front of people in general.
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PostSubject: Re: The Ocean   The Ocean Icon_minitimeMon Nov 03, 2008 1:40 pm

AnnaIsAFuckingStoolPigeon wrote:
brizanne__ wrote:
Shawn! wrote:
AnnaIsAFuckingStoolPigeon wrote:
I noticed! Yeah, it takes balls to be able to sing that...
I sing it all the time

yeah but in front of an audience with homophobic people?

Doesn't even matter if they're homophobic, considering it's just in front of an audience in general, most (if not all) of whom you don't know, and could or couldn't be homophobic.

Hell, people have issues singing in front of people in general.

And we know Tom does, how many of his solo shows has he done with his eyes closed the entire time because he's so nervous?
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PostSubject: Re: The Ocean   The Ocean Icon_minitimeTue Nov 04, 2008 5:01 pm

hastekilledcreativity wrote:
AnnaIsAFuckingStoolPigeon wrote:
brizanne__ wrote:
Shawn! wrote:
AnnaIsAFuckingStoolPigeon wrote:
I noticed! Yeah, it takes balls to be able to sing that...
I sing it all the time

yeah but in front of an audience with homophobic people?

Doesn't even matter if they're homophobic, considering it's just in front of an audience in general, most (if not all) of whom you don't know, and could or couldn't be homophobic.

Hell, people have issues singing in front of people in general.

And we know Tom does, how many of his solo shows has he done with his eyes closed the entire time because he's so nervous?

I was just saying it accuatly does take balls to sing in front of people with lyrics like in The Ocean, even if you arent scared to sing in front of people solo or as a band. Some people are homophobic, some aren't. You never know.
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PostSubject: Re: The Ocean   The Ocean Icon_minitimeTue Nov 04, 2008 5:05 pm

brizanne__ wrote:
Shawn! wrote:
AnnaIsAFuckingStoolPigeon wrote:
I noticed! Yeah, it takes balls to be able to sing that...
I sing it all the time

yeah but in front of an audience with homophobic people?
Meh, i wouldn't care
Till the rotten fruit comes flying
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PostSubject: Re: The Ocean   The Ocean Icon_minitimeTue Nov 04, 2008 5:29 pm

Shawn! wrote:
brizanne__ wrote:
Shawn! wrote:
AnnaIsAFuckingStoolPigeon wrote:
I noticed! Yeah, it takes balls to be able to sing that...
I sing it all the time

yeah but in front of an audience with homophobic people?
Meh, i wouldn't care
Till the rotten fruit comes flying

Cool
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PostSubject: Re: The Ocean   The Ocean Icon_minitimeTue Nov 04, 2008 5:31 pm

This song is fucking great. Inspired a part of a story I'm writing, too, actually.
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PostSubject: Re: The Ocean   The Ocean Icon_minitimeWed Apr 14, 2010 11:53 pm

that last "cuuuuuuuurve!" is sooo powerful
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PostSubject: Re: The Ocean   The Ocean Icon_minitimeThu Apr 15, 2010 12:30 am

ray! wrote:
that last "cuuuuuuuurve!" is sooo powerful
One time I was walking around town listening to The Ocean and right when that "cuuuuuuuurve" played it started pouring rain out of nowhere. It was glorious beyond comprehension.
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PostSubject: Re: The Ocean   The Ocean Icon_minitimeThu Apr 15, 2010 5:34 am

Daggar Slade wrote:
ray! wrote:
that last "cuuuuuuuurve!" is sooo powerful
One time I was walking around town listening to The Ocean and right when that "cuuuuuuuurve" played it started pouring rain out of nowhere. It was glorious beyond comprehension.

Awesome Cool
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PostSubject: Re: The Ocean   The Ocean Icon_minitimeFri Apr 16, 2010 1:49 pm

^that is really really amazing. some sort of super-awesome nessy...
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PostSubject: Re: The Ocean   The Ocean Icon_minitimeFri Apr 16, 2010 1:53 pm

Does anyone else love the awesome beats at the end, in the last line, before the 'cuuuuuuuuuuurve'? <3

Around 3:51 - 3:55.
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PostSubject: Re: The Ocean   The Ocean Icon_minitimeWed May 19, 2010 3:03 pm

my own interpretation of the song: basically, i just think its about the cycles of life. water, being the essence of life, is reffered to in the first verse as God's heaven, reaching everyone, everywhere, in someway. ending with the thirst of our children being quenched.

than in the second verse it is used as the backdrop of toms ideal life. living on the beach with a loving family. again, ending with the mention of children.

as for the line "an ocean in my soul...", you can refer back to the first verse and what he says about heaven. everyone has an ocean in their soul, and everyone has that bit of heaven, that life force. symbolically, placid water.


any truely great song is open to interpretation.
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